… Also, was that thing in super too? My question is, how the hell was Future Trunks able to defeat him so easily? Not to mention they're bigger, stronger, faster, and have longer claws than the Yao Guai.... Mg2+(aq) + 2e- = Mg(s) E° = - 2.37V Cl2(g) + 2e- = 2Cl-(aq) E° = + 1.36V... yes. He was at 50% fighting Goku then for one attack he hit Goku with 70% of his power. Not saying organic Frieza wins, but I don't see how you got he has worse durability showings than Mecha Frieza. He shot another one that pushed Trunks back. Top. he knew all along he could become the most powerful being in the universe utterly unrivaled if he bothered to try, and train. All he did was shoot one ki balst. He tanked an explosions that could be seen from space. Due to the damage that he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. 543 Anime Fans. Frieza kicks the horrified opponent again, who tries to get up. Would be better if you just posted the quote. By Lavell Dec 08, 2019. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. @jtmac005: 100% Frieza isn't slow, but ya he loses energy fast. The death ball is either black or read, usually with electricity around it. Every single powerup / powerdown was noted from that mini-arc, Almost every single minor detail was noted , especially in battle, everything was noted, BUT the only thing, which was not noted, is a speculation - where you assume without any evidence that freeza was suppressed and powered up to attack trunks, while no one notes, and everyone seems to ignore. Never change, Apex. Too bad Frieza showed no signs of major personality change whatsoever, so you claiming that he was dumber is based on nothing. Also, how is freeza supposed to know that he "powered up"? Full Armor Mecha Frieza appears in the video game Super Dragon Ball Z, this form is a stronger version of Mecha Frieza (called Cyborg Frieza in-game): this form has a rocket launcher mounted on his shoulder, the ammunition for which are stored behind his other shoulder, he has a belt of explosives around his waist, and his tail is upgraded with additional armor and sharp blades. It's left entirely up to speculation. 0. While Ize comes across as a very basic version of Frieza and lacks much of the malicious personality that made Frieza memorable, Ize was even stronger than his father. The point is, we can't be sure how much power he was using when he fired that blast. @overlordarthas: Frieza never abandoned his plan in the manga. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a Super Saiyan. He was said to have gotten stronger than he was on Namek. Gohan mentions Frieza is suppressed and there is never any mention of him powering up, however having him killed off not at full power doesn't make sense story telling wise. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . 24.118.227.213 04:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Also, remember that mecha freeza is nowhere near as smart as namek freeza (He denied blowing up the planet when king cold said so), Lol, what a surprise this is... After using nothing but straw man arguments in our last conversation, you're now using an argument from ignorance fallacy. And guess what isn't noted - freeza powering up. SSJ2 Gohan couldn't beat Majin Buu, but could beat Cell. Still, there is no way to know for sure if that is the case or not. Man, this is a non-subbed full movie, and it's not easy to go through a video. I usually don't make it a habit of wasting my time arguing with people who don't even seem to realize when they're using informal fallacies. Also whenever Frieza powers up it is shown. His attack might of been full power, but not his body, if you know what I mean. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a Super Saiyan. Well, the problem is that it’s difficult to really ascertain how strong Golden Frieza is, however, he is very powerful. From the time he showed up during the Frieza Saga, he has been the most feared and hated villain in the entire franchise. Unless Gero figured out a way to get Frieza to transform by eating cyborgs and trying to get to Perfect Frieza, I don’t see a Mecha Frieza being all that much stronger than 16. Ize's described as being roughly 100 times stronger than Frieza's Perfect Form. That doesn't necessarily qualify as proof either, though. but he never wanted to try. Of course not. It's up for interpretation. Dragon Ball: 5 Moves Stronger Than Frieza's Death Ball (& 5 That Are Weaker) Out of every Dragon Ball villain we've come to known over the years, Frieza is definitely one we wouldn't want to run into alone. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. @redhood_jaytodd: When did organic Frieza not show good durability? Also whenever Frieza powers up it is shown. Even if he lasts that long, he'd be severely damaged. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a … The Cyborg version of Frieza, or his older brother? In the battle with Frieza as well, they move so fast that it's barely noticeable to Krillin who's a human being. Kind of like how when fighting Raditz Goku's power level jumped up when he used his kamehameha. (You'd think they'd even take into account the fact that he had likely trained, but I'm willing to let the revelation that they didn't slide.) However, I personally don't believe he was holding back at this point: I never read the manga that much but in the anime it is clear that Frieza feeling it and got impatient. In Dragon Ball, who is more powerful 100%, Frieza or Mecha frieza? Frieza was probably scared of him, if he knew of his e... Grey Buu is stronger. Yeah, but it's unknown whether or not Mecha Frieza can use his buff form at that point. Mechanical Frieza wins. Mecha Frieza. In that case coole... ...r is actually is stronger than Frieza. The US Bureau of Statistics makes extrapolations from known data, but in undeveloped countries, the population numbers are probably ... ... on which form they are in and if you are including the spin off like the movie where cooler creates an army of meta coolers, each of which has the abilities of the original cooler. Can you also differentiate Death Ball from Super Nova? Gohan mentions Frieza is suppressed and there is never any mention of him powering up, however having him killed off not at full power doesn't make sense story telling wise. Also, i'm pretty sure your battle power raises automatically when you fire off a Kamehameha, but like you said it's only for a brief instance. Mecha Frieza Edit. Join Community. King Cold has been stated to be stronger than both Frieza and Cooler, ... After the short speech Mecha Frieza dashes towards the enemy with his head in the stomach, while King Cold flies up high. Base trunks powerup was noted, piccolo power down was noted, freeza's henchmen power down (due to death) was noted. It should be noted that the Dragon Ball Minus manga shows him blowing up planet Vegeta with a similar blast. ? Mecha-Frieza Was Stronger than He Was on Namek "Papa, if the two of us fight him together, we're sure to beat him." Unless 100% Frieza can finish the fight while he still has the endurance, Mecha all the way. "I may be able to take care of him by … ...That makes absolutely no sense. Trunk, had become a Super Saiyan at least one other time before facing Frieza, so there was a little time before then, meaning he could’ve gotten a little stronger. That is completely illogical. He must have powered up at least a good deal when firing that blast at Trunks as he would have no reason to "go easy" after witnessing his transformation. Cooler is stronger than Frieza, thus he is stronger than King Cold. Mecha Frieza constantly mentions that he's new, improved, and stronger than before. Neither, as they are not over nine thousand.... ...s stronger than Cell.Proof? I didn't think Mecha was much stronger than 100%, just that they'd fight long enough till 100% loses enough power, so I still back him in this fight. Thus, Grey Buu is stronger... ...t forget they are actually genetically enhanced Jackson's Chameleons from before the war, not just mutants. Mecha-Frieza Was Stronger than He Was on Namek "Papa, if the two of us fight him together, we're sure to beat him." Goku in his base form in Resurrection F is stronger than Kid Buu so clearly, Frieza with his Golden form is significantly stronger. Mecha Frieza was chopped up by a sword, lol. In the anime Frieza seemed to use more of his power. Why where the Androids stronger than Mecha Frieza? So someone's personality can't change over time? Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. @thedarkpaladin: Ya, IMO Frieza did something like what he did to ssj Goku. Weaker: Android 17. Especially when they keep using the exact same fallacies over and over again even after being called on it. Considering that Goku's powers have risen exponentially since then and when the Androids arrive on earth, the fighting sequences which depict them just do not have the velocity it had in Frieza Saga. Completely illogical? Even if he wasn't using 100% (no real way to know) then subject would be left entirely up to speculation. LITERALLY EVERYTHING is noted in that mini-arc. The funny thing is, your own scans on post #24 say otherwise... Frieza stated his cyborg body is stronger than his organic body, I see no reason why we couldn't trust him. Desperate for a genuine challenge, Ize killed his way across the galaxy before learning about the existence of Earth. He turned out to be … Mecha Freeza, he was implied to be slightly stronger than his former self and he will not start losing power. @thedarkpaladin: I wish they made it more clear. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . As for the power sensing arguement, the Z-warriors don't say that there was a greater power than Frieza, they say there is a power as STRONG as Frieza, making them fairly equal in power. While each new villain in the series is far stronger than the next, Frieza is the only one given the opportunity to improve, and given the opportunity, he becomes one of the strongest fighters in the universe. Everyone <<< King cold =< Mecha << his max power on namek. Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. @apex_pretador: Very nice. Surely either Frieza or Cold was stronger than 150 mil unsuppressed to bother coming back to Earth to re-face Goku. Topic: Future Gohan SSJ vs Mecha Frieza. How strong is Metal Cooler actually? To be fare power ups are usually noted in dragon ball, however it is possible he powered up. I kinda remember a scan of him saying he didnt need Cold's help since he increased his power he could do it himself. Sure, it can. Yeah, I can't really see why Frieza would hold back after finding out that Trunks was an SSJ. mind showing any SINGLE power up which wasn't noted? Mecha Frieza is like the new and improved version of original Frieza, so I give it to him plus Frieza at 100% has shown not so good durability and has stamina issues. Mecha Frieza is how he was when he attacked Trunks (if he wasn't at full power he can't power up). But which one? It might be a hint that Frieza wasn't using all of his power. If thats not enough for you, Super Buu(Gohan Absorbed), being the strongest buu, could only be defeated by a fusion... ... is a good fight, Broly is powerful. Who wins against Cooler vs Frieza… Never change. @apex_pretador: Yup, I think so. :), @apex_pretador: https://kissanime.to/Anime/Dragon-Ball-Z-Movie-15-Fukkatsu-no-F-Dub/Movie-720p?id=117959. Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. just sit on his laurels and enjoy what he’d inherited. Mecha Frieza Edit. 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